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	<title>Comments on: The BRICs: Two Faces of Chinese Wine</title>
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		<title>By: imobiliarias alegrete</title>
		<link>http://wineeconomist.com/2011/01/28/the-brics-two-faces-of-chinese-wine/#comment-2017</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conditions are ripe for fraud. Wine producers’ outrage at fake wine is like Claude Rains’s shock at learning that there was gambling at Rick’s place in Casablanca. And yet they continue to accept wines to be reconditioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conditions are ripe for fraud. Wine producers’ outrage at fake wine is like Claude Rains’s shock at learning that there was gambling at Rick’s place in Casablanca. And yet they continue to accept wines to be reconditioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart George</title>
		<link>http://wineeconomist.com/2011/01/28/the-brics-two-faces-of-chinese-wine/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consumer protection is very lax in China. In 2008, 200,000 children were poisoned by milk tainted with melamine. Think what might (or might not, for that matter) be in fake wine, which continues to be a serious and ever-growing problem. 

A bottle claimed as the only known existing Impériale of Cheval Blanc 1947 was offered in Geneva on 16 November at an estimate of CHF150,000-250,000. But its price shot upwards like Lake Geneva’s Jet d’Eau and it sold for CHF298,500 (including premium). 

The Cheval Blanc Impériale and other wines apparently came from a private cellar and had been “reconditioned at the chateau in 2010 (with) new capsules, new labels and new original wooden cases from the château.”

With reconditioned wines, one is reminded of Pope’s line, “Once a flock bed, but repaired with straw”. The record price shows that collectors are happy to pay a premium for well-stored wine, even if it has undergone palingenesis with a new cork and (probably) some younger wine added to it. But there are many neophyte collectors in Asia and elsewhere these days, who have little experience of what an old wine should look, smell and taste like. To drink reconditioned wine is, as T.S. Eliot put it, to have the experience but miss the meaning.

Conditions are ripe for fraud. Wine producers’ outrage at fake wine is like Claude Rains’s shock at learning that there was gambling at Rick’s place in Casablanca. And yet they continue to accept wines to be reconditioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumer protection is very lax in China. In 2008, 200,000 children were poisoned by milk tainted with melamine. Think what might (or might not, for that matter) be in fake wine, which continues to be a serious and ever-growing problem. </p>
<p>A bottle claimed as the only known existing Impériale of Cheval Blanc 1947 was offered in Geneva on 16 November at an estimate of CHF150,000-250,000. But its price shot upwards like Lake Geneva’s Jet d’Eau and it sold for CHF298,500 (including premium). </p>
<p>The Cheval Blanc Impériale and other wines apparently came from a private cellar and had been “reconditioned at the chateau in 2010 (with) new capsules, new labels and new original wooden cases from the château.”</p>
<p>With reconditioned wines, one is reminded of Pope’s line, “Once a flock bed, but repaired with straw”. The record price shows that collectors are happy to pay a premium for well-stored wine, even if it has undergone palingenesis with a new cork and (probably) some younger wine added to it. But there are many neophyte collectors in Asia and elsewhere these days, who have little experience of what an old wine should look, smell and taste like. To drink reconditioned wine is, as T.S. Eliot put it, to have the experience but miss the meaning.</p>
<p>Conditions are ripe for fraud. Wine producers’ outrage at fake wine is like Claude Rains’s shock at learning that there was gambling at Rick’s place in Casablanca. And yet they continue to accept wines to be reconditioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Veseth</title>
		<link>http://wineeconomist.com/2011/01/28/the-brics-two-faces-of-chinese-wine/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Veseth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops. I didn&#039;t see that coming. Maybe she&#039;ll forgive me when you sell it to the Chinese fake wine guy for big bucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. I didn&#8217;t see that coming. Maybe she&#8217;ll forgive me when you sell it to the Chinese fake wine guy for big bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Sapp</title>
		<link>http://wineeconomist.com/2011/01/28/the-brics-two-faces-of-chinese-wine/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Sapp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife is going to hate you for this. She has been &quot;lobbying&quot; me for several years to toss out that other empty jeraboam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife is going to hate you for this. She has been &#8220;lobbying&#8221; me for several years to toss out that other empty jeraboam.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Freeman</title>
		<link>http://wineeconomist.com/2011/01/28/the-brics-two-faces-of-chinese-wine/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Freeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chinese are brand and lable snobs. That is
principally why they have a preoccupation with
Bordeaux labels. Why would anyone buy an empty
wine bottle unless they wanted the wine lable?
Most of the &quot;collectors&quot; would not know a Bordeaux from a Rhone. I discussed this matter with Jeannie when I met with her some 3 months ago in Hong Kong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese are brand and lable snobs. That is<br />
principally why they have a preoccupation with<br />
Bordeaux labels. Why would anyone buy an empty<br />
wine bottle unless they wanted the wine lable?<br />
Most of the &#8220;collectors&#8221; would not know a Bordeaux from a Rhone. I discussed this matter with Jeannie when I met with her some 3 months ago in Hong Kong.</p>
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